aclearcollectorharmonyfan asked:
So I've got a question Sasukelover do you think Indra should have been the heir? I feel that even if his father gave him something (ain't it lovely when daddy says the winner takes all and makes it a competition for decades?) I think I would have objected. If it's on their deathbed I guess it would be them speaking feverishly as decades of teaching you to lead humanity, of loyalty and sacrifices(cause you don't get the highest Sharingan by lazing), of your beliefs deemed lesser? Would you accept it?
I think so, yes. Ashura didn’t bring anything good to the table, anyway; furthermore, he was practically handed everything, like Naruto, on a silver platter. Basically, it’s Indra that inherited the Sage’s strong chakra and genes, not Ashura (in other words, Indra inherited Kaguya’s and Shinju’s powers; the Sharingan’s originally the eye inside the Shinju’s flower):
As Ashura didn’t gain anything, he gained power through cooperation; however, Kishimoto makes it fairly obvious that what this cooperation truly is. He basically left his Ninshu, Bijuu, and power to Ashura and Ashura only. He gave Indra nothing:
The Sage also differentiates between Ninshu and Ninjutsu himself (it’s heavily implied in the manga and Databook-4 that Indra invented the Hand-seals, but I’d wait for the Official Version of the latter to make a full comment):
When Naruto distributed the chakra among the alliance and the whole alliance heard his thoughts? That was Ninshu:
Naruto learning the Bijuus’ names and gaining their chakra? That’s also Ninshu:
See the above parallel with the Sage? This is actually agreed upon by the other Bijuu:
It may seem like they’re talking about Naruto being the Sage’s incarnation, but that’s not true. They’re recalling the “Legacy” the Sage left to Ashura, as we come to know in the future chapters about Ashura’s past (which Hagoromo told) and the fact that Naruto’s the “Gathering Place” for all Bijuu Chakra:
This is proven by the fact that the Bijuu knead, mold, and prepare the chakra for Naruto to use by meeting inside his consciousness:
Kurama goes as far as to knead the whole chakra for his BM mode (he augmented BM and Senjutsu, Naruto didn’t) and make the three-headed avatar for him, as well:
Sasuke confirmed the presence of Bijuu Chakra in Naruto’s system, too. The only reason Naruto couldn’t draw more like above is that the Rinnegan’s Genjutsu Sasuke put the Tailed-Beasts under blocked their means of communication with Naruto, so Naruto could no longer draw their chakra:
In fact, the Sage himself confirms that he “bequeathed” all of his power to the younger son, Ashura:
As the Shinju’s the source of all chakra and Bijuu are parts of Jubi (Kaguya combined together with Shinju) it makes sense for it to resonate with other people’s chakra in a sort of “meeting place for all!” whose power originates from Naruto.
Let’s see Ashura and Naruto side by side while they’re using the three-headed Avatar that Naruto couldn’t make before becoming the meeting place of all Bijuu and acquiring the Sage’s Senjutsu:
Naruto can use the TSBs, too, but I won’t post the scans as it’s pretty much a known affair. After this overwhelming evidence, we can conclude that the Sage left Indra literally nothing when Indra was the better of the two?
Which is true for all Indra descendants (especially so for Sasuke who, like Indra, is a natural inventor of Ninjutsu and user of the best Raiton Jutsus, Indra’s Arrow included) that are the only ones to possess large and potent chakra reserves and distinct ocular powers, which Senju and Uzumaki, contrary to popular Fanon, canonically don’t:
The Sage states that he did that because Ashura believed in love, but did he? Both the Senju and the Uchiha quarreled with and killed off each other throughout the various generations of reincarnations. The cooperation between them was very rare:
What sort of love is this when Ashura isn’t any more quarrelsome than Indra? If both of them are troublesome, why not leave the legacy to the far more capable brother? The only thing Ashura actually did was “multiply” problems, conflicts, and wars. He organized, gathered, and assimilated people and made conflicts deadlier, as did these villages! As he and his reincarnations continued to take part in conflicts, he solved nothing. The greater numbers he had on his side only served to perpetuate the herd-mentality that the majority is right, no matter what the cost!
Does this ring any bells? But, of course, Naruto and company’s lifelong ambition to build fascist villages on a mountain of corpses! Because, as you know, greater numbers obviously equal greater good. (That was sarcasm.) If we all followed Ashura and his reincarnations mentality, no one should ever pay for war-crimes (’cause things happen, so we should never improve); slavery would’ve been great; God’s real, so whatever he states in the holy texts should be believed upon, without question; bigotry is cool and doesn’t need to be weeded out; racism is dandy because everyone does that, too; etc.
As you can see, Ashura stands for nothing but fascism. I for one can’t wrap my head around this “Ashura good! Indra bad!” framework when the narrative shows the exact opposite in spades: it’s Ashura’s line that’s continued to perpetuate violence, resistance to change, and a philosophy that believes in numbers rather than systematic changes for the good of all: Hashirama said that he’d kill his own family to uphold fascism; Naruto was upset that Sasuke didn’t return to the village despite Leaf committing genocide against his entire clan; he was very upset with Nagato being a party-pooper, as well, despite Konoha committing mass-slaughter against his village, killing innocent people, and pillaging their resources. But more people say that these things are cool, didn’t you know?
How can anyone honestly tell me that this detestable despot Ashura, along with his entire line of imperialistic thugs, was ever good and that Indra, Madara, and Sasuke weren’t right all along? Is this Fandom bereft of common sense and most basic intellectual capacity when they gush over Ashura and his despicable political methods? Never mind, that was a rhetorical question …
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